The Chapter 13 attorney’s fee can be placed into the plan of re-organization. We become one of your creditors, so, when you make that monthly plan payment, the trustee is going to turn around and pay our fee. That allows for very little out of pocket cost to retain an attorney on a Chapter 13. Our retainer fee is $500, which is applied to the cost of the bankruptcy, the filing fee, the credit report and the credit counseling classes. The attorney fees are paid through the plan payment. We know the person can afford it because we see their income and their expenses, and when we write the plan.